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Food for the whole year

Posted 30/03/08 by Matt B in the Questions category

How little can we eat well on?

I was reading up on an unrelated topic and came across an interesting little fact. Under the law of Moses the Israelites were people are instructed to have a feast this feast should take place at the temple and use 10% of the years increase. The idea was to share it with the priests (Levi), the stranger, the fatherless and the widow (poor and wageless people including voluntary workers basically).

So if one had 11 new cows this year and 28 new sheep the feast would consist of 1 cow and 2 sheep. You can read the passage in question in the book Deuteronomy (Chapter 14 in the Bible). One interesting thing was that if it was too far to go with all that food then you could sell it and buy what ever you wanted when you got to the city.

Now that got me thinking. In today's money, assuming that wages are similar, that would be £2,000 to £5,000 ($3,000 to $10,000 in America at a guess). I tried to work out how many cows that would buy and how many people that would feed. Given that a cow should feed a family of four or five for at least a year I made the total number of people getting something to eat would be around 8,000 people.

That in itself was a bit stunning but this led me to another thought - how little could you feed a family for?

Let us consider an average family of five people. £200 or so should get you a an entire cow from what I can work out add to that the cost of a very big freezer and the cost of running it. I wonder what the price would be. The price at the moment of buying beef every day from TESCO is between £1,000 and £1,500 ($2,000 - $3,000 in American money).

Can the same bulk results be obtained with vegetables? Even if they don't if you keep sharing the cost and result among friends and neighbours season by season fresh vegetables would be available.

Of course the price gets even lower if you take an allotment and grow the stuff yourself (idea suggested by my ever thoughtful wife).

My question therefore is this - what would the total estimated cost of feeding the family be for the year and using such methods how low could you drive the price of the year's food? How would it work? What are the hidden costs? (and) What would be needed (initial equipment investment)?

Your answers, thoughts and ideas please.
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31/03/08 13:18:49 Phil [link]

I shiver to think of how many people could live off of the amount of food I consume in a year.

One could live long and healthy on black beans and brown rice with a few legumes. Throw in some hormone free meat and you'd live a very robust lifestyle. It's the nasty carbs and chemical filled food that do us end and inflate our appetites.

01/04/08 15:20:41 Matt B [link]

Hello Phil, I agree that we probably don't live as well as w could, however carbs are pretty vital as an energy source but we probably over do it.

I spoke to a truck driver friend who happens to collect from a slaughter house. Apparently British prices are utterly unlike the US ones I looked at. A cow would cost not $200 but £1,500 plus transport, tax and other nasties. It was a really disappointing discovery but on the plus side I did have an excuse to nag him into visiting and leaving a comment.

Going back to my original thoughts on other cultures the 10% of the years increase would still cover the price of UK cow plus veg for around 700 to 1000 people. That's lot of hungry strangers that could be fed.

I can only wonder if living cheaper, better and more simply is still possible in the UK?

03/04/08 19:28:48 Matt B [link]

On that subject how much meat is on a cow? http://ask.metafilter.com/2...

21/08/08 20:14:58 stubsy [link]

Would'nt it be better to keep the cow alive for a bit that way you could get some milk and make cheese etc.

I am sure you can get a live cow cheaper than a butchered one, it'll save mowing the lawn.

30/08/08 13:45:45 Matt B [link]

Have you ever gotten near to a cow in real life? They are huge things. Anyway we breed for milk OR beef so while it is a good idea to get a few cows to do both in reality we have no fields that could sustain them (not being farmers) but could perhaps purchase a freezer full of cow.

I have a friend that delivers to and from places that "chop up cow" and he tells me the UK prices are a bit steep currently.

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